we saw this remarkable -- i guess we call it a confession from lance armstrong this week. 2 1/2 hours with oprah winfrey. here's a part of it. >> did it feel wrong? >> no. scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> did you feel in any way that you were cheating? >> no. the scariest. >> not a lot of contrition there. >> the rewards of athletic excellence in this country are astonishingly high and, therefore, the temptation to cheat is astonishingly high, and we see it throughout -- we've seen it in track and field probably more than any other. baseball has had its problem. you can't tell me the people in football don't look that way without human growth and hormones and steroids. it's a pandemic problem, and the country is wide awake to it now. every time this happens someone says, ah, the loss of innocence. who is innocent? i mean -- >> except he was such a bully about it. i mean all those years of saying, no, no, no and suing people and all of that. no, it's just -- it's so outrageous. it's sort of another whole level of outrageousness. >> you know, i know lance. i'